Yamaha’s Arius series of digital pianos has produced some of the best beginners to intermediate pianos. The YDP-165 is the successor to the YDP-164, so in this review, I’ll also discuss the difference between the two and which is the better option for potential buyers.
Final verdict 4.8
The YDP-165 has some outstanding qualities that you can hear about through my review. But, the biggest reason I like it so much might be the price. It’s not cheap, but it’s not high-end prices either, although it delivers a high-end sound.
If you’re shopping in the intermediate price range, the YDP-165 is one of the best options out there.
What I like
- Outstanding CFX concert grand tone.
- Realistic GH3 keyboard.
- Great-looking cabinet and stool.
- Dual headphone jacks.
- Hundreds of onboard practice lessons.
- Built-in recorder.
What I don’t like
- No dedicated audio output.
- Still just 10 voices.
Why you should trust this review
I’m a pianist, composer, and music educator with over 25 years of experience in the industry.
As a professional pianist, I’ve played and tested everything from a Bösendorfer 290 Imperial concert grand piano to budget-friendly beginner keyboards.
Contents
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- Sound quality 4.8
- Speakers 4.6
- Keyboard 4.8
- Features 4.7
- In use 4.9
- Build quality 4.7
- Connectivity 4.6
- Comparisons
Sound quality 4.8
The Arius YDP-165 comes with 10 preset voices, the same as its predecessor (YDP-164). It also shares the same flagship tone with the older model: the CFX concert grand piano.
Although there is no difference, on paper, between the sound of the old and new model, the sound of the YDP-165 has more depth to go with that vibrant, bright tone.
When you see the same sound engine in digital pianos that were released years apart, it’s common for the manufacturer to have made enhancements, either in the processing power or the sample sets, etc.
So, I can’t say the sound is lightyears ahead of the YDP-164, but the YDP-165 took something that was already great and made it more realistic/authentic.
The other onboard sounds include electric piano, organ, vibraphone, and strings. I have the same opinion across the Arius range: the non-piano sounds are good but not outstanding; they aren’t why you should buy the instrument.
It has a max polyphony of 192-notes, which is more than enough for intermediate players.
Built-in speakers 4.6
The YDP-165 doesn’t seem to have any changes in this area since the older model. It comes with the same pair of 4.7-inch speakers with dual 20-watt amplifiers.
A total of 40 watts is as powerful as most digital pianos, especially in a similar price range. Given that the most common use would be home practice/performance, it packs more than enough punch.
If you want to put it to the test elsewhere, it could be enough for a small room recital or rehearsal, but not typical gigging.
Keyboard feel 4.8
Again, on paper, we have something that looks to be the same as the YDP-164. However, Yamaha’s GH3 keyboard seems to be more refined than before.
It has 88 graded hammer-action keys, meaning they get lighter from bass to treble. The most important aspects of this kind of keyboard are that the heaviest (lowest key) weight is accurate, and the graduation to the lightest is accurate.
Yamaha, in some instruments, goes with heavier than average keys, but the Arius series has always been true to the weight of an acoustic piano. In this case, the YDP-165 feels great and makes the player feel that they have the full range of dynamics and expression at their fingertips.
It also features synthetic ebony and ivory keytops that look great, feel authentic, and absorb moisture to avoid slipping. It’s very nice, indeed.
Features 4.7
Here are the main features of the Arius YDP-165 digital piano:
Intelligent Acoustic Control
This intelligent feature automatically adjusts the EQ of the speaker system to ensure a crystal clear sound at any volume.
Smart Pianist app
Yamaha’s Smart Pianist app is one of the most interactive. It lets you control piano functions remotely, learn your favorite songs, and provides a wide range of tutorial content.
Demo songs and practice exercises
Not every player will see this area as a reason to buy or not to buy. But, there’s a lot of value for beginners here; YDP-165 raises the bar with the amount of built-in content.
It comes with a massive 353 built-in songs, 50 classic piano songs, and most importantly, 303 practice exercises.
Half-damper control
When you use the sustain pedal on an acoustic piano, the amount of sustain is determined by how far you depress the pedal. The idea is that you get complete control over sustain levels rather than just on or off, which is what you get with some digital pianos.
The YDP-165 supports half-pedaling, which gives you more control over your performance and promotes good habits for acoustic piano playing.
Built-in recorder
The built-in two-track recorder isn’t overly impressive; it’s pretty average for the price range. However, it’s a feature that every learner should use, whether writing/arranging songs or listening to practice sessions.
Piano modes
There are two piano modes (outside of regular piano): Duo mode and Dual mode.
Duo mode splits the keyboard into two identical zones, making it perfect for student/teacher practice. Dual mode allows you to layer two sounds together, which is always helpful when you want to combine piano and strings for those power ballads.
In use 4.9
One of the great things about all Arius pianos is that they are incredibly user-friendly. They typically don’t have a vast amount of sounds or functions to navigate, so the controls are minimal and positioned neatly at the ends of the keyboard.
The position of the controls maintains a more realistic piano look for the instrument. Besides ruining the image, a huge amount of knobs, faders, or buttons can make a digital piano seem intimidating or confusing for beginners, especially younger kids.
The YDP-165 is a piano that any user should be able to find their way around easily after a few plays.
If we think of home practice being the main use, the YDP-165 is ideal. But, going beyond practice, the sound is so good that it could be perfect for home recording as players get into making their own music and DAWs.
Build quality 4.7
Arius pianos always look good, but you often find them to feel more robust as you move up the range. The YDP-165 comes with a solid, well-constructed stand/cabinet that will look good in your home and take some serious effort to damage significantly.
I’m impressed by the feel (resistance) of the pedals too, which is too often overlooked on digital pianos. The YDP-165 digital piano comes with a lovely Yamaha-branded stool.
Connectivity 4.6
It would have been nice to see some dedicated audio outputs, or at least one, since we are getting beyond the beginner price range. The YDP-165 doesn’t offer that, but it’s far from the only digital piano at this price without audio outputs in Yamaha’s defense.
It has two headphone outputs, which is perfect for silent practice in Duo mode.
Compared to other digital pianos
The YDP-165 is no doubt one of the best home digital pianos in the price range. But it’s a serious investment, so you should consider all of your options before any final decision. Here are a few others that I like.
Yamaha YDP-165 vs YDP-105
OK, I could have pointed to the YDP-164 here, a very similar (older) piano that would save you a few hundred dollars. But, if budget is a concern, look further down; the YDP-105 is excellent value for money. Read the full review
Yamaha YDP-165 vs Kawai KDP120
I will never get sick of saying this: Kawai digital pianos sound amazing. It has a different tone, and some may prefer Yamaha, but very few digital pianos sound as authentic as these Kawais. Read the full review
Yamaha YDP-165 vs Casio AP-470
Shifting to Casio now, and the flagship Celviano series, we have the AP-470. It has a few premium touches that the YDP-165 doesn’t have, but it’s slightly more dated. Read the full review
Who is the Yamaha Arius YDP-165 best suited for?
The Yamaha YDP-165 suits beginners who are in it for the long term and intermediate players who have outgrown lower-level instruments but are not yet ready to go high-end.
hello and thanks for this useful site
there any difference between ydp 165 and ydp 145 in sound?
i am a intermediate piano player and i want a digital piano
which ydp 165 or casio ap 470 is better choice for me?
the most important things for me is that voice and touch be close to an acoustic piano
Hi, I prefer Yamaha’s CFX concert grand (on both YDP models) sound over the sound of the AP-470, but you should try both or at least listen to both a lot. Both Yamahas sound the same, but the YDP-165 has a better keyboard action, which typically lets you get more out of the sound. It has the GH3 action, which is more responsive for note repeats when the key hasn’t fully returned. The YDP-145 has the GHS action, which is good but not quite as nuanced as the GH3.